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Entertainment vs. Ministry: by Carole Carnie

When is music in the church considered entertainment, or ministry? I’m attempting to tackle this controversial issue, primarily because it’s a dispute that many musicians, and “worship leaders” face as they serve their churches each week with dedication, with their hearts, and with their “God-given skills!”

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Imagine with me if you will, that the skills you “know” God has blessed you with to serve Him, is constantly under scrutiny; and its value, or significance to the church is continually questioned! Then add to that, your heart for minsitry being questioned by those asking, “is what you do entertaining, or ministry?” Now, as you read this blog, attempt to empathize with the musicians, and worship leaders by placing yourselves, and your skills at the center of this discusion.

I’ve always been a curious individual! My curiosity is stimulated by my love of life, and people! Developing healthy relationships is extremely important to me;  healthy relationships fuel my desire to understand why people act, do, or say what they say! By having a better understanding of people, you are able to cultivate better relationships! By investing in good relationships, essentially you are investing in your own happiness. Studies have shown that when we have good relationships, we are happier, healthier, and are our most productive selves! Of course,  the added bonus is that our churches benefit from good relationships!

Painting by J. Carnie.
Painting by J. Carnie.
I’m forever looking for the backstory in all situations, more often than not, this is where the “real truth” lies. Having a curious nature has helped me to see through the smokescreen people often put up in order to conseal what their real issues are. My past experience as a Senior Compliance Manager at a major bank, has served me well. My training to look for, audit, and ensure that the Bank did not violate customer’s,  or employee’s rights by treating people disparingly; supported my love for fairness, and diversity!  This is who I am, not what I do! I shared this information  about myself, to give you a better understanding of the individual writing this blog.

The controversy over music in the church has been going on for many years. This issue is divisive, and will continue to be so until God’s people realizes, “enough is  enough!” It’s erosive, and tears at the very heart of God’s principle  found in John 13:35, “by this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” This “divide and conquer strategy,” continue to prevent unity in the church! This issue wether music is entertainment, or ministry may also violate another principle of God, and that is not to judge! The judgement of others is “spiritual malpractice,” because God admonishes us against judging one another.  However, as we continue the battle over this issue, our attention is diverted from what is known as the “Great Commission,” which is making disciples of man found in Matthew 28:19-20. As our American churches continue to decline in growth, I pray that God’s people will wake up and realize that while we are fighting amongst ourselves, people’s very salvation is at stake!

This is a complex issue with many contributing factors, such as our cultural backgrounds; and within the same cultures there are different musical preferences. Even that can  be broken down futher within the same culture by taking age into account, because different age groups are drawn to different styles music. Now, take into consideration where an individual is raised, and that will also play a part in what kind of music is preferred. Now, I hope you are beginning to see the complexity of the question regarding music in the church! Then there is also the issue of some individuals being more expressive than others. Case and point,  I am passionate about everything I do in life, especially when it comes to music. Come to our church on any given Sunday morning, and I’m the one moving the most. And then there is my husband, JC who is calm, cool, and reserve in everything he does in life. I’m sure there are additional contributing factors which I may not be aware of which forms our prefences to certain styles of music. However, I hope you are now beginning to understand why I say this issue may not be about the music alone. What further complicates this issue is when a church is striving toward congregational diversity.  By adding diversity to the equation, the issues become even more passionate, and complexed.

I personally believe that there is often a “backstory” when discusing music in the church, By this I mean, there may be something not being said that has nothing at all to do with the music. The conversation surrounding the topic of music, may be a smokescreen to cover what really needs to be discussed! That could be the style of music, how the  music is presented, is the music being expressed too passionately, and is it causing too much response from the congregation?  And in some instances, the issue may be “who” is leading the music.
In an attempt to move this elephant out of the room, (entertainment vs. ministry)  One thing that I know for sure, is that this potentially explosive issue which has been simmering for years, has to stop if churches are to expect any future growth. Stistics show that our American churches are on the decline!

I encourage you to consider this, “it can be disheartening” for any musician to have their God given gift, which is to glorify God, (not man) to come under such fire within the church; (a place which should be nurturing, and loving) by questioning the praise worthiness of their gift to God! It’s dangerous to think that you can look at what’s being offered up to God as praise, (music) and determine the sincerity of the deliverer. I’m going out on the limb by asking, why do we consider it acceptable to question the gifts of our “worship leaders,” however we would never dare to label the pastor’s gifts as “motivational speaking.” For some, I know this comment may sting, but allow me to assure you that each time this debate takes place about our “worship leaders,” and the musicians who tireless serve our congregations weekly, they are feeling that same sting, because their offering to God  is not being understood.

The definition of ministry is, any service which is done for a religious purpose. Now, if the worship leader was not singing for the purpose of glorifying God, it would be safe to say he/she is an entertainer. Follow me, if a pastor is not speaking for the purpose of God, he/she would be a motivational speaker. My question to you is, why can’t music be both entertaining, and ministry, with neither devaluing the other. We all know pastors’ who deliver their message with passion, and yes they are entertaining, but does that somehow take away from the fact that they are ministering the “word” of God, for God, to the people of God? And for those who may be part of the ongoing debate regarding “worship music,” I am curious about what criteria are you utilizing to derive at your conclusion? Especially when we know that God looks at the heart, and man looks outwardly. As mentioned earlier, our preference to music is a complex issue with many contributing factors.

In conclusion, if the music is entertaining for some, if it’s thought provoking for others, and if it’s spirit filled yet for others, that’s secondary to the true measure of music in the churc.  More essential is, if the individuals who are presenting the music is sold out for the ministry of God? I believe that’s how the music should be evaluated, by the personal relationship the individual presenting the music has with God.

Musical Trivia: Until the last 1800’s, the organ was the church’s primary instrument, and the piano was considered a secular instrument, unfit for church.

From My Heart to Your Heart,
Carole Carnie

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Carole Carnie “From My Heart to Your Heart” episode #6: When You Find Your Calling.

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How To Find Peace In Your Life: by Carole Carnie

How do you find peace in your life, when all around you is like a “raging sea?”

Metaphorically speaking of course, I am still reeling from the “raging sea” experience currently occurring in my life. At times I feel as though my emotions are being tossed around like a “rogue” wave! However, right in the middle of the “storm”, God revealed to me individuals who are going through life altering situations, they are going through major issues which is proving to challenge their endurance, long suffering, trust, and faith in God!

What Does the Bible Say About Weathering the Storms In Our Lives?

Being patient and persevering through the “storms” in our lives is paramount! We must endure these challenges as disciplined athletes! Athletes strengthen their bodies, and increase their endurance through training. We must strengthen our faith, and trust in God through “spiritual” training! When faced with hardships I encourage you to pray, study the word of God, and fellowship with others; “I consider this as a form of spiritual training!”

In Timothy 1:8  We see that Paul considers Timothy his “spiritual son” by referring to him as, “his beloved child.” However, Paul is encouraging Timothy to embrace hardship for the sake of the gospel. He says, “therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony about our Lord, nor be a prisoner, but share in suffering for the gospel by the power of God. What grabs my attention in this verse, is that Paul tells Timothy that he would need the power of God to endure his suffering. Are you able to trust God in your suffering?

In Timothy 1: 15  Timothy was under pressure to compromise the gospel, he did not like conflict or controversy, and because of this people were turning against him, and abandoning the gospel. 1:15 You are aware that all who are in Asia turned away from me, among whom are Phygelus and Hermogenes.  

One thing I know for sure, is that when I focus on serving God, and I don’t loose sight of my purpose in life, “which is ministry,” I am able to weather all storms! If it is true like with Timothy, that we can turn people away from God by handling our hardships badly, then the opposite is true, that we can draw people to God by handling our hardships well.

Barb’s Raging Sea!

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The changes in these two women’s lives, a mother and daughter; definitely caused a “raging sea” experience for the daughter! Their story is, Barb, the daughter lives in California, and her mother, Carol resides in their home state. During their regular conversations, Barb noticed what seemed obvious to her, (but not to the attending doctors) some changes in her mom’s speech, it seemed slurred. When she encouraged her mom to get the opinion of a doctor, she did! However, she was told that her medication was most likely causing the problems. Feeling convinced that she needed to relocate back to her home state to care for her aging mom, Barb did just that! Being home for only a few months, she began to second guess her decision; primarily because the move
was not as she’d hoped, or planned. She adores her mom, so being her caretaker was not the issue. However, the job she had accepted was a major source of her frustration, it was not as expected. Additionally, she was mourning the lose of her independence, and privacy.

Recently, her mom fainted! The doctors said it was due to over exertion, and dehydration. About a week later she experienced another occurrence of fainting. Test were ran to determine the cause of her fainting, and it was concluded that she was experiencing mini strokes! God’s hand is clearly seen in this situation. The power of love, driving this daughter to give up so much, “in order give so much!”

DNae’s Raging Sea!

DNae is a young mother who contacted me expressing fear around her recent decision to relocate out of California, to be near her son who is scheduled to start college soon. Much of her “fear” was stemming from her not yet having a secured place to live, nor had she secured employment. She was now questioning if she had heard God correctly! We first identified where her fear was coming from, and then addressed those issues. We then talked about trusting God, and having “faith” that God would never leave or forsake her. Nahum 1: 7 “The Lord is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble: and He knows those that trust in Him.” We then discussed faith, what it means, and what does it look like when we exercise it in our lives. Because everything was not in place before her move, DNae replaced her trust in God with fear, instead of with ‘her” faith. Living in faith is just that, wanting or hoping for something, but not knowing how it will occur; however you still follow your aspirations even when you don’t know the outcome. That’s faith in action!

I have learned from my own personal experiences, to seek God for calming my fear, anxiety, and to stay in His presence by reading His wIMG_0605ord in order to receive clarity on how to respond, or even if I should respond. Sometimes a situation may require that you ” just wait and be still.” In my stillness it is essential to stay there until my thoughts, words, and actions align with God’s truth. When you know the word of God, it’s important that when your emotions are controlling you, that you stay the course of waiting until your actions are in alignment with the principles of God! That is how you find peace in the mist of the storm!

For me, doing God’s work allows me to weather any storm! Identify what drives you in life, what brings you the greatest joy, and what is your passion: do those things while the sea of life is raging all around you, and it will serve as your “lifeline” until the seas cease!

From My Heart to Your Hear

Carole Carnie

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Ministry vs Entertainment: by Carole Carnie

When is music in the church considered entertainment, or ministry? I’m attempting to tackle this controversial issue, because it’s a dispute that many musicians, and “worship leaders” face as they serve their churches each week with dedication, with their hearts, and with their “God-given” skills.” Imagine with me if you will, that the skills you “know” God has blessed you with, to serve Him is constantly under scrutiny; and its significance to the church is continually questioned! Then add to that, your heart for ministry being challenged by those asking,”is what you do entertaining, or ministry?”
Now, as you read this blog, attempt to empathize with the musicians, and the worship leaders by placing yourselves, and your skills at the center of this debate!

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I’ve always been a curious individual! My curiosity is stimulated by my love of life, and people! Developing healthy relationships is extremely important to me; healthy relationships fuel my desire to understand why people act, do, or say what they say! By having a better understanding of people, you are able to cultivate better relationships. By investing in good relationships, essentially you are investing in your own happiness. Studies have shown that when we have good relationships, we are happier, healthier, and are our most productive selves! Of course, the added bonus is that our churches, and communities benefit from the building of good,and healthy relationships.

I’m forever looking for the back story in all situations, more often than not, thi
s is where the “real truth” lies. Having a curious nature has helped me to see past the smokescreens people often put up in order to conceal what their real issues are. My past experience as a Senior Compliance Officer at a major bank has served me well. My training to look for, audit, and ensure that the Bank did not violate customer’s, or employee’s rights by treating them despairingly, supported my love for fairness, and diversity.””This is who I am, not what I do.” I shared this information about myself, with hopes that you would have a better understanding of the individual who is writing this blog.

This controversy over music in the church has been on going for many years. This issue is divisive, and will continue to be so until God’s people realizes, “enough is enough!”  It’s erosive, and tears at the very heart of God’s principle found in John 13:35, By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”This “divide and conquer strategy” presently existing in our churches, continue to prevent unity among the congregation! The issue whether music is entertainment, or ministry may also violate another principle of God, and that is “not to judge!” The judgement of others is “spiritual malpractice,” because God  admonishes us against judging one another. However, as we continue the battle over this issue, our attention is diverted from what is known as, the “Great Commission,” which is making disciples of man, found in “Matthew 28:19-20 As our American churches continue to decline in growth, I pray that God’s people will wake up and realize that while we are fighting amongst ourselves, people’s very salvation is at stake!

This is such a complex issue with many contributing factors, such as our cultural backgrounds; and even within the same cultures there are different musical preferences. You can break down likes, and dislikes even further in the same culture when you take age into account; different age groups are drawn to different musical styles. Now add to that where an individual is raised, and that will also play a part in what kind of music is preferred. I hope you are beginning to grasp the complexity of the question regarding music in the church. We haven’t even discussed the fact that some individuals are more expressive than others. Case and point, I express passion in everything I do in life, especially when it comes to music. Come to our church on any given Sunday and I’m the one moving the most. And then there is JC, his approach to life is calm, cool, and reserved. I’m sure there are many more contributing factors, “which I know I’m not aware of,” which contributes to forming our preferences to certain styles of music; however I hope you are now beginning to understand why this issue may not be just about
music alone. I’m sure there are many more contributing factors to why we are drawn to certain music, however I hope you understand why I believe the issue of music may not be about music alone. What further complicates this issue, is when a church is striving toward congregational diversity, the issues become even more passionate, and complexed!.

I personally believe that there is oftentimes a “back story” when discussing music in the church. By this I mean, there may be something not being said that has nothing at all to do with music.The conversation surrounding the topic of music may be a smokescreen to cover what really needs to be discussed! That could be the style of music, how the music is being presented, is the music being expressed too passionately or not, and is it causing too much response from the congregation? And in some instances, the issue may be “who” is leading the music.

Painting by J. Carnie.
“Worship” Painting by J. Carnie.

In an attempt to remove this elephant out of our sanctuaries, (entertainment vs. ministry) one thing that I know for sure, is that this potentially explosive issue which has been simmering for years, has to stop if churches are to expect any future growth.Statistics show that our American churches are on the decline! I encourage you to consider this, “it can be disheartening” for any musician to have their God-given skill, which was given to them by God to glorify Him, (not man) to come under such fire within the church; by questioning its praise worthiness to God! The church should be a place that is nurturing and loving to all. It’s dangerous to think that anyone can look at what’s being offered up to God as praise, (music) and determine the sincerity of the deliverer. I’m going out on the limb by asking, why do we consider it acceptable to question the gifts of our “worship leaders,” however we would never dare to label the pastor’s gifts as “motivational speaking.” For some, I know this comment may sting, but allow me to assure you that each time this debate takes place about our “worship leaders,” and the musicians who tirelessly serve our congregations weekly, they are feeling the sting of their offering to God being misunderstood.

The definition of ministry is, any service which is done for a religious purpose. Now, if the worship leader was not singing for the purpose of glorifying God, it would be safe to say he/she is an entertainer. Follow me, if a pastor is not speaking for the purpose of God, he/she would be a motivational speaker. My question to you is, why can’t music be both entertaining, and ministry, with neither devaluing the other? We all know pastors’ who deliver the message with passion, and yes they are entertaining, but does that somehow take away from the fact that they are ministering the “word” of God, for God, to the people of God? And to those who may be driving the conversation regarding music in the church, I am curious know, by what criteria are you using to derive at your conclusion? Especially when we know that God looks at the heart, and man looks outwardly. As established earlier, our preference to music is a complex issue with many contributing factors.

Recently, an article was published where a member of a church was requesting advice from Billy Graham about the musical styles in her church. She was complaining about the contemporary music in the church, and went on to say that she preferred hymns. This is a condensed version of his response, “we have a singing faith, and God has given us the gift of music to praise Him.(Psalm 63:5) He urged the writer to ask God to help her to be grateful for all music that points us to God, new or old. He further said, while you may not like the music, others may, and God can use it in their live to encourage them and bring them closer to Christ.”

Musical Trivia: Until the last 1800’s, the organ was the church’s primary instrument, and the piano was considered a secular instrument, unfit for church.

 

From My Heart to Your Heart,

Carole Carnie

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